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alex23
Daniel said:It's painfully obvious that it is all for the sole purpose of negative
attention.
You guys are just begging for a YHBT ;-)
Daniel Bickett
Daniel said:It's painfully obvious that it is all for the sole purpose of negative
attention.
You guys are just begging for a YHBT ;-)
Daniel Bickett
Daniel said:You guys are just begging for a YHBT ;-)
So I can just take a copy of the tutorial to the bathroom next time.
Thanks for the tip, man!
[snip]Xah Lee said:Following is a tutorial on Python's classes.
Xah the arrogant wrote, among other things,
However, there are several errors in the above that would mislead a Python
learner. I advise any such to ignore Xah's writings.
Terry J. Reedy
Brian said:Terry Reedy said unto the world upon 2005-01-26 14:08:
Hi all,
here's a thought:
There isn't any doubt that these 'tutorials' are generally unwelcome
and unhelpful. Numerous people have kindly taken the time to flag some
of the problems. So much so that any competent google of the archives
would quickly reveal the group consensus on their instructional merit.
I submit that continued corrections and advice of this sort are
counter-productive. I understand the good intentions behind the
corrections. (Indeed, my own level of Python-fu is such that it is
possible that I might have been mislead the 'tutorials' without these
corrections; I thus appreciate the correctors' efforts.) But, such
corrections are troll-food and make it unlikely that the 'game' of
posting such tutorials will soon loose its magical power to amuse the
OP. They all but ensure that there will be more such 'tutorials' to
correct.
There isn't any doubt that these 'tutorials' are generally unwelcome and
unhelpful. Numerous people have kindly taken the time to flag some of the
problems. So much so that any competent google of the archives would
quickly reveal the group consensus on their instructional merit.
I submit that continued corrections and advice of this sort are
counter-productive.
Could we try to ignore them in the hopes that without the light of
attention they will wither, meanwhile trusting the many extant reviews
and google to do their work?
(In case it isn't obvious: none of this is intended as a criticism of
Terry or any of the others who have been 'fighting the good fight'; I
just think a change of strategy might be in order.)
Terry said:No offense taken. My personal strategy is to read only as much of trollish
threads as I find interesting or somehow instructive, almost never respond,
and then ignore the rest. I also mostly ignore discussions about such
threads.
John said:Indeed. Let's just nominate XL to the "Full Canvas Jacket" website
(http://www.ratbags.com/ranters/) and move on.
[snip]Xah Lee said:Following is a tutorial on Python's classes.
Please stop posting this to comp.lang.c. I'm sure the folks in most
of the other newsgroup aren't interested either -- or if they are,
they can find it in comp.lang.python.
In comp.lang.perl.misc Xah Lee said:Following is a tutorial on Python's classes. It is part of a
a-Python-a-day mailing list. As an example, it shows what i mean by
covering the language's functionalities as is, without needing to chalk
up to rocket sciences. If expanded slightly and edited, it can supplant
sections 9.0 to 9.4 of the Python tutorial. Languages Tutorials should
follow this style.
Xah Lee said:i've noticed that in Python official doc
http://python.org/doc/lib/module-re.html
and also How-To doc
http://www.amk.ca/python/howto/regex/
both mentions the book "Mastering Regular Expressions" by Jeffrey
Friedl.
I suggest it be dropped in both places. The mentioning of this book in
the Perl/Python community is mostly a fawning behavior and confession
that the author is among "in the know". This book and its mentioning is
a cultish behavior among OpenSource morons.
Most of the time, its mentioning as a reference is irrelevant. 99% uses
of regex are the simplest uses. Spending time to read this book of
specialization, from economy perspective, is a waste of time.
Xah
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