Is D better than C?

[Keith Thompson]

Bah. Anglosaxons. Ö will be the greatest programming language ever.

My Anglo-saxon newsreader (or some Anglo-saxon agent along the way)
transformed that character to a question mark.

 

[Peter Pichler]

My Anglo-saxon newsreader (or some Anglo-saxon agent along the way)
transformed that character to a question mark.

Must have been your reader. Even in your reply, I can still see it as
a capital O with two dots over it.

 

[Joona I Palaste]

My Anglo-saxon newsreader (or some Anglo-saxon agent along the way)
transformed that character to a question mark.

It's supposed to be O umlaut, sometimes incorrectly called O diaeresis
(diaeresis is for forcing it into its own syllable, umlaut is for
changing its vowel sound), which is the last latter in the Finnish
alphabet.

 

[Mike Wahler]

My Anglo-saxon newsreader (or some Anglo-saxon agent along the way)
transformed that character to a question mark.

Perfect. Isn't most (interactive) computer use essentially
the posing of a question?

-Mike

 

[Bjarne Stroustrup]

Or was it possible that you knew a guy named Seymour Moore? (I finally
got to say that.)

It's good, but I had heard it before.

No, I didn't.

-- Bjarne Stroustrup; http://www.research.att.com/~bs

 

[Amir Yantimirov]

May I ask, Bjarne, what features except right name new broadly
succesful language should have, you think?

If there are some publications on this (yours or others) I will like
be pointed.

Also I have the cheek to represent some of my ideas on this subject:
http://www174.pair.com/yamir/programming/

Amir Yantimirov

 

[Arthur J. O'Dwyer]

May I ask, Bjarne, what features except right name new broadly
succesful language should have, you think?

If there are some publications on this (yours or others) I will like
be pointed.

Okay, consider yourself pointed. To comp.lang.misc, where discussion
of new programming languages is considered not only topical but welcome.
Followups set.

Also I have the cheek to represent some of my ideas on this subject:
http://www174.pair.com/yamir/programming/

Some interesting ideas. I like the idea of replacing x += 3 by
x# + 3, actually, although I could see its being misused pretty
easily.

-Arthur

 

[Jeremy Yallop]

May I ask, Bjarne, what features except right name new broadly
succesful language should have, you think?

If there are some publications on this (yours or others) I will like
be pointed.

You might like Guy Steele's paper, "Growing a Language".

Jeremy.

 

[Amir Yantimirov]

Okay, consider yourself pointed. To comp.lang.misc, where discussion
of new programming languages is considered not only topical but welcome.
Followups set.

Thanks greatly!
Some years ago I found it completely unpopulated.
Now seems what though residents are few but they are more of my kind.

Amir Yantimirov
http://www174.pair.com/yamir/programming/

 

[Amir Yantimirov]

You might like Guy Steele's paper, "Growing a Language".

Jeremy.

Thanks. Too general (and wordy) but have good links.

Amir Yantimirov
http://www174.pair.com/yamir/programming/

 

[Rob Thorpe]

Then the BEST PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE IS obviously Z !!

(Z++ is forbidden -

'[' is gold then.

I don't think so, when I type

"[ is the best langauge?"

into my computer it says:

"] missing"

(ducks)

 

[Dan Pop]

It's supposed to be O umlaut, sometimes incorrectly called O diaeresis
(diaeresis is for forcing it into its own syllable, umlaut is for
changing its vowel sound), which is the last latter in the Finnish
alphabet.

Without context, it is impossible to tell whether it's O umlaut or
O diaeresis because both look the same

Dan

 

[Dan Pop]

May I ask, Bjarne, what features except right name new broadly
succesful language should have, you think?

Are there any features they forgot to include into the C++ standard?

Dan ;-)

 

[Randy Howard]

Are there any features they forgot to include into the C++ standard?

Dan ;-)

Efficiency?

 

[Joona I Palaste]

Without context, it is impossible to tell whether it's O umlaut or
O diaeresis because both look the same

Finnish *only* uses umlaut letters, not diaeresis letters.

--
/-- Joona Palaste ([email protected]) ------------- Finland --------\
\-- http://www.helsinki.fi/~palaste --------------------- rules! --------/
"'It can be easily shown that' means 'I saw a proof of this once (which I didn't
understand) which I can no longer remember'."
- A maths teacher

 

[Dan Pop]

Finnish *only* uses umlaut letters, not diaeresis letters.

That would be a valid argument if Finnish were the only language to use
this letter...

Dan

 

[Mike Wahler]

In <[email protected]> (e-mail address removed)

Are there any features they forgot to include into the C++ standard?

Dan ;-)

Specifications for mind-reading translators.

-Mike

 

[Joona I Palaste]

That would be a valid argument if Finnish were the only language to use
this letter...

Can you name even *one* language where Ö is used as a diaeresis letter
instead of an umlaut one?

 

[Keith Thompson]

Specifications for mind-reading translators.

I'm glad that's missing. A translator that read my mind would produce
horrible code. It's the painstaking process of translating what's in
my mind into something a stupid compiler can understand that
constitutes programming.

, :-|, and/or :-(

 

[Martien Verbruggen]

Can you name even *one* language where Ö is used as a diaeresis letter
instead of an umlaut one?

Dutch.

Martien