Is learning Java still worth it in the US?

[Chris Uppal]

If you would like me to do your homework for you, I'm open to
compensation negotiations.

[...]
Let's just agree that zero information counts as
"no amount."

But does FUD count as "no" information, or is it -- in some sense -- *less*
than zero ?

In which case nospam owes us already ;-)

-- chris

 

[Chris Uppal]

Perl got me to think in low level terms again, after half a
decade of working at a higher level.

I'd be interested to know more about why you see that as a good thing.

-- chris

 

[Guest]

Let's just agree that zero information counts as
"no amount."

The information is available for those who choose to research it.
I'm content if we agree to disagree on this issue. I'm not trying
to start a flame war.

 

[Darko Aleksic]

The information is available for those who choose to research it.
I'm content if we agree to disagree on this issue. I'm not trying
to start a flame war.

Hm, I tried to research your claims, but all I got was:

"No standard web pages containing all your search terms were found.

Your search - "nospam's Indian friends" - did not match any
documents."

Darko

 

[Guest]

Hm, I tried to research your claims, but all I got was:

"No standard web pages containing all your search terms were found.

Your search - "nospam's Indian friends" - did not match any
documents."

I choose to post anonymously to avoid spam.

I choose not to post the names of my Indian friends in order to protect
their privacy.

You are welcome to think otherwise.

I work with quite a few Indians at my workplace and find them mostly nice
people. I'm not anti-Indian, but I can see you have assumed otherwise,
and I doubt you'll change your mind. This kind of black and white attitude
does not impress me, but it is quite common, but also dissapointing. I'm
saddened that people can't comment on the disadvantages of outsourcing
without people assuming you're anti-Indian.

 

[Chris Smith]

I work with quite a few Indians at my workplace and find them mostly nice
people. I'm not anti-Indian, but I can see you have assumed otherwise,
and I doubt you'll change your mind. This kind of black and white attitude
does not impress me, but it is quite common, but also dissapointing. I'm
saddened that people can't comment on the disadvantages of outsourcing
without people assuming you're anti-Indian.

Hmm. Perhaps we can test that theory.

I think that outsourcing specifically on United States corporations
under current economic policies represents a form of massive corporate
tax fraud that will ultimately fail to benefit *any* nation's bulk
population regardless of their country of residence. That it does
benefit some individuals in the short term, though, is an indication of
the very poor economic situation of much of the world, which is a
problem that humanity as a whole is morally obliged to address rather
than ignore, and certainly not take advantage of. Incidentally, I also
don't doubt that there are just as many rubber-stamp universities in
India as there are in the United States, though I have no specific data
on the matter (and I doubt that "National American University" would
agree with my opinion on that point).

Does anyone think I'm anti-Indian yet? Or perhaps the anti-Indian
assumption only those comments that, while opposing outsourcing, also
manage to paint the entire nation and livelihoods of billions of people
with a broad generalization implying that they aren't worth anything.

--
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The Easiest Way to Train Anyone... Anywhere.

Chris Smith - Lead Software Developer/Technical Trainer
MindIQ Corporation

 

[Bryan Bullard]

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....

I think that outsourcing specifically on United States corporations
under current economic policies represents a form of massive corporate
tax fraud that will ultimately fail to benefit *any* nation's bulk
population regardless of their country of residence.

So very true and it always has been. Actually, the US was largely founded
for the purpose of tax evasion (British tax evasion that is).

....

 

[Scott Ellsworth]

I'd be interested to know more about why you see that as a good thing.

Most of the time, the low level perspective is not that relevant for
what I do. When needed, though, it is good to be able to think in low
level, non object oriented terms. To not need to create a zillion
objects or abstractions to solve a simple problem.

It is easy to forget that the high level concepts we usually work in
turn into a whole passel of low level instructions. Most of the time,
that low level code is below my radar, and not where I should be
focussing our attention. Once in a while, though, I do need to think in
terms of bytes on the wire, or instructions on the queue.

Put another way: for the vast majority of tasks, the higher level you
think about the problem, the faster it gets solved correctly.
Performance is thus a minor issue. For example, if I round trip to a
database, I have an automatic lag of milliseconds, and shaving
microseconds is probably irrelevant. Thus, when you do find yourself in
one of those cases, it is hard to shift focus to bytes on the wire. Or,
for that matter, to shift focus to "solve the distraction so you can
move on to the meat of the problem."

Perl makes it really easy to bang out a very quick solution to a rather
large set of problems. As the second half of a one liner find command,
it can save me a lot of development time, or hand editing. I would not
be eager to use it for a major problem again, but as one tool among many
to move a major project along, it is not a bad one.

Scott