JKop bashing thread

[JKop]

Mabden posted:

In my experience of using "bad" language all the time, I have found that
a curse word allows the person you are talking to to dismiss your point
out of hand.

Understood. But, regarding sociality, you could say this about absolutely
*aannyytthhiinngg*. It's just that in our own society, one thing that the
"posh" people hold dearly is that they don't curse, aledgely because they've
superior vocabulary and have no need to curse.

On the other hand, take LA gang members. They're the total opposite. Cursing
is the norm for them, while using alternate words in their place is what's
"frowned upon".

So if you want to "fit in" seemlessly with both groups, you've to behave
differently in their respective presences.

They can choose to make their particular "I'm outa here"
noise and/or gesture and quit the discussion. And they can then run to
the nearest spectator with a loud, "Did you just hear what I heard?!!!"

Again, the royalty will be saying this, while the gang members will not have
batted an eyelid.

This allows the onlookers and the "offended" person to hold the "moral
high ground" and by default win the argument, in their eyes.

In *their* eyes, yes.

No matter what way an argument goes, one party can say that *they* won,
while the other can say that _they_ won.

If neither will compromise, then there's is no resolution to the conflict.
Except violence ofcourse ( the laws of physics govern all! ).

Do you mean that?

I meant that they don't get an answer - not that the don't make one ponder.


-JKop

 

[Gary Labowitz]

Mabden posted:

Understood. But, regarding sociality, you could say this about absolutely
*aannyytthhiinngg*. It's just that in our own society, one thing that the
"posh" people hold dearly is that they don't curse, aledgely because they've
superior vocabulary and have no need to curse.

I doubt your theory on why cursing is considered offensive. Serfs in the
Middle Ages regarded cursing as undesirable for their own reasons. I'd
hardly call them "posh" people. (And, totally off the subject, the use of
"people" here is wrong. It should be "persons.")

On the other hand, take LA gang members. They're the total opposite. Cursing
is the norm for them, while using alternate words in their place is what's
"frowned upon".

So if you want to "fit in" seemlessly with both groups, you've to behave
differently in their respective presences.

<<snip>>

Okay and so what? Which of those two opposites (both poorly nuanced and
judgmentally defined) are you putting the members of this ng in?
Are we "posh" people or LA gang members?

Do you see how silly your remarks appear?

We, of course, are neither. Most of us are professional or semi-professional
computer programmers and/or students of c++. What do you suppose the social
norms are for this group, assuming you wish to "fit in?"