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Edwin van der Vaart

Nico said:
Hehehe, the ones on the right are mine :)
And if you don't see the differences you have a big problem. Even the right
should be a lot better if the source files were acceptable.
The outcomes of the good ones are:
left, right, right, left, right.
 
L

Luigi Donatello Asero

Nico Schuyt said:
Hehehe, the ones on the right are mine :)
And if you don't see the differences you have a big problem. Even the right
should be a lot better if the source files were acceptable.

Well,
As I said, I do not see much difference at all. But
as you maintained one thing in one post and another thing in another, now I
wonder: Are you a lier?
 
L

Luigi Donatello Asero

Well,
As I said, I do not see much difference at all. But
as you maintained one thing in one post and another thing in another, now I
wonder: Are you a liar?

l
 
N

Nico Schuyt

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Edwin van der Vaart

Nico said:
The http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bilder/gattopiccolo.JPG You must see
something else than I do. I see numerous white jpg artefacts
I see the white spots on the artefact, but the background is much better
then
http://www.nicoschuyt.nl/test/cat.jpg
That's the
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bilder/piattoceramicasvedese.JPG. Compare
with the large one:
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bilder/30ceramicasvedese.JPG and notice all
the red spots and the unsharpness in the piattoceramicasvedese.JPG.
I see.
 
E

Edwin van der Vaart

N

Nico Schuyt

Edwin said:
I see, it's a cat.
I are at one on that :)
Still I find http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bilder/gattopiccolo.JPG
a better thumbnail then yours.
I don't know how to say it. It's closer to the reality.
The reality is the original on
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/bilder/gattoinceramica.JPG
Tha cat on that picture is sharp, the background not. The thumb should
represent that. He's not selling bushes but cats.

Geez, you are almost as stubborn as Luigi :)
 
T

Travis Newbury

I wonder whether you think that the page
www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
looks better or worse than
www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/test3.html
or may-be does not make any big difference.

You know, something you could reward visitors with Javascript turned on
with is a simple timer to check the connection speed, then redirect to
the appropriate page. If they don't have or use javascript then they
loose nothing, but if they have it turned on then they don't get the
intro page, they get redirected to the appropriate speed page.

basically, set a timer, then have a comment exactly 1024 characters
long. Then check the timer. Using a little math you have an
approximation of the connection speed.

Will it always work? Nope. But if it doesn't then they are at the page
used to choose anyway so they lost nothing. Just a painless little toy
to have on your site that saves 80%+ visitors from seeing the choice
page.

YMMV
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

Travis Newbury said:
You know, something you could reward visitors with Javascript turned on
with is a simple timer to check the connection speed, then redirect to
the appropriate page. If they don't have or use javascript then they
loose nothing, but if they have it turned on then they don't get the
intro page, they get redirected to the appropriate speed page.

basically, set a timer, then have a comment exactly 1024 characters
long. Then check the timer. Using a little math you have an
approximation of the connection speed.

Will it always work? Nope. But if it doesn't then they are at the page
used to choose anyway so they lost nothing. Just a painless little toy
to have on your site that saves 80%+ visitors from seeing the choice
page.

Well, the question is also whether the visitors lose something when they see
the choice page..
 
T

Travis Newbury

Well, the question is also whether the visitors lose something when they see
the choice page..

Whole bunch of questions would have to be answered, but it is still a
simple thing to do. We use this method many times when selecting the
defaults for streaming media. (No one get their undies in a bunch, we
always give the user the option to override our default if they want
to.) If the customer has javascript on, and we guess right, then we
have a happier customer. If they don't have javascript turned on, or we
guess wrong, then they don't even know we tried to guess, and they make
their choice.
 
J

Jan Faerber

Travis said:
to.) If the customer has javascript on, and we guess right, then we
have a happier customer. If they don't have javascript turned on, or we
guess wrong, then they don't even know we tried to guess, and they make
their choice.

It is not so much the javascript that is missing.
It is just a rough layout of content on Luigi's page,
not a graphical layout.
He tries to translate everything into five different languages, makes a form
here, a adsl-modem-page there, considers about certificates and then he
makes a RFC out of it.

There are three main sections on the page:

1.) Holiday lodgings

Holiday lodgings in Italy
Holiday lodgings in Sweden
Prices

2.) E-commerce

Swedish design
Italian design / ceramics
Articles made of glass

3.) Else

Translations / Languages / Interpreting
Intermediation of wares
Advertisements


It is not so bad the page, everybody is aware of your personality, you
studied in many countries and you are a business man and doing your webpage
on your own. The style is influenced by italian or spanish design like
hotmail groups with that language and on the other side he uses the
homepage just to have an additional information port for his customers.

If you want to expand your business and have the webpage as a real platform
for your company(-ies) it would be better to have three webpages: One for
each section, three domains and three individual styles.


Concerning your thumbnails on
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/adsl.html
I would have just a very short look at
http://www.uebungsfirma.at/fashiondesign/
 
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Jan Faerber

Jan Faerber wrote:

Concerning your thumbnails on
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/adsl.html
I would have just a very short look at
http://www.uebungsfirma.at/fashiondesign/

http://www2.comnex.net/Online_Sup.27.0.html

Here you find a very good support tool from an IT company in Austria.
The page is only in German but they have customers in Russia aswell and they
also talk in english language with each other.
They can immediately build a remote connection to your PC with Windows and
manipulate your registry to fullfill your desires.

You find as well a very good web support here, they can build a web page for
you with everything you need with Flash, Quicktime and DHTML.
With the ContentManagementSystem Type3 you are able to maintain your webpage
and to present always the most recent content.

Hope it helps.
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

Jan Faerber said:
Jan Faerber wrote:



http://www2.comnex.net/Online_Sup.27.0.html

Here you find a very good support tool from an IT company in Austria.
The page is only in German but they have customers in Russia aswell and they
also talk in english language with each other.
They can immediately build a remote connection to your PC with Windows and
manipulate your registry to fullfill your desires.

You find as well a very good web support here, they can build a web page for
you with everything you need with Flash, Quicktime and DHTML.
With the ContentManagementSystem Type3 you are able to maintain your webpage
and to present always the most recent content.

Hope it helps.


I am not looking for anybody building the website
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
I am looking for certificates which can be used for electronic qualified
signatures.
I am not looking for a Flash solution either!
 
J

Jan Faerber

Luigi said:
I am not looking for anybody building the website
http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com

You can engage other people to build your website so you save time and
meanwhile you care your main business. => administration!!!
I am looking for certificates which can be used for electronic qualified
signatures.

Yes, I remember that thread of yours.
http://www.wrq.com/
I am not looking for a Flash solution either!

I love Flash. It is the big future of the net.
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

Jan Faerber said:
You can engage other people to build your website so you save time and
meanwhile you care your main business. => administration!!!

It would cost much more money and I would probably do not like how they do
the
website.
I also think it is a big advantage to know the languages a website is
written on to design it and I do not know any webdesigner who knows all the
languages the website is under construction ( 10 languages at present )
I find it much more practical to build the website myself.
Yes, I remember that thread of yours.
http://www.wrq.com/


I love Flash.

I do not.
 
J

Jan Faerber

Luigi said:
It would cost much more money and I would probably do not like how they do
the
website.

Of course it costs money. Spend money to get money.
How can you say that you won't like something that you have never tried?
I also think it is a big advantage to know the languages a website is
written on to design it and I do not know any webdesigner who knows all
the
languages the website is under construction ( 10 languages at present )
I find it much more practical to build the website myself.

You could separate text and design. That would be much easier.
btw.: Try to find native speakers.

<quote>
One of Smartys primary design goals is to facilitate the separation of
application code from presentation.
I do not.

Would you say 'Flash sucks'?
You don't have to do the whole page with flash.
Just animate 10 flags for 10 languages with flash.
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

Jan Faerber said:
Of course it costs money. Spend money to get money.
How can you say that you won't like something that you have never tried?

I am not interested in your proposal, thank you
You could separate text and design. That would be much easier.
btw.: Try to find native speakers.

I do not agree
<quote>
One of Smartys primary design goals is to facilitate the separation of
application code from presentation.


Would you say 'Flash sucks'?
You don't have to do the whole page with flash.
Just animate 10 flags for 10 languages with flash.


There may be people who like Flash but I do not.
 
K

Kris

Just animate 10 flags for 10 languages with flash.

There may be people who like Flash but I do not.[/QUOTE]

Me either. I especially dislike them for not knowing the difference
between language and nationality.
 

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