Mac IE 5 issues

[dorayme]

In your stylesheet:

H1, H2, H3, H4, H5, H6, P, UL, OL, DIR, MENU, DIV, DT, DD, ADDRESS,
BLOCKQUOTE, PRE, BR, HR, FORM, DL {display: block;}

B, STRONG, I, EM, CITE, VAR, TT, CODE, KBD, SAMP, IMG, SPAN {display:
inline;}

LI {display: list-item;}

Why? It's not only superfluous for a conforming browser, but potentially
dangerous for a quirky one. MacIE surely falls in the latter group.
Don't tempt it.

I suggested to OP not to use it a while back, my tests showed a
lot of troubles disappeared on IE Mac after removing some of
these "display" lines. The OP seems to have disappeared. He may
have been throttled by his colleagues down his corridor who had
the Macs and whom he was trying to impress, they may have done
this deed before he read not my brilliant post and will be long
past caring (by reason of bodily expiration) for yours...

Still, you never know. You have more authority than me (though
you are not as sparklingly brilliant)

 

[dorayme]

Trapped in the departure lounge at alt.html, dorayme got bored and
wrote:


I didn't say you could ignore them outright, but "make sure that the
content is presented in an acceptable way" in the same way as you
wouldn't go out of your way to make sure a site looks pixel-perfect in
NS4.

And I did not say you said you could ignore them outright in
spite of you implying by "so few people use IE5/Mac now that I
don't personally think it's worth worrying about." that you
would ignore them outright.

Anyway, what about that other business of the code fragments you
mentioned? It sounded interesting, I may have missed your
interpretation. You do not take it up further?

 

[Dylan Parry]

Trapped in the departure lounge at alt.html, dorayme got bored and
wrote:

Anyway, what about that other business of the code fragments you
mentioned? It sounded interesting, I may have missed your
interpretation. You do not take it up further?

Sorry, not with you on this one... What did I say about "code
fragments"? I honest don't remember saying something like this

(&deity;, I'm starting to sound like our Italian buddy) :\

 

[dorayme]

Trapped in the departure lounge at alt.html, dorayme got bored and
wrote:


Sorry, not with you on this one... What did I say about "code
fragments"? I honest don't remember saying something like this

(&deity;, I'm starting to sound like our Italian buddy) :\

No, sorry! It was not you on this! It was Andy D.

 

[Dylan Parry]

Trapped in the departure lounge at alt.html, dorayme got bored and
wrote:

No, sorry! It was not you on this! It was Andy D.

I see What he was showing is that if you have two (or more) space
characters between the classes specified in a class attribute, then
IE5/Mac will crap up, eg. 'class="foo bar"'.

Whereas using 'class="foo bar"' will work just fine, with IE5/Mac using
both the foo and bar classes.

The problem here, as I suggested earlier, is that IE5/Mac does not cope
well with optional spaces.

 

[dorayme]

Trapped in the departure lounge at alt.html, dorayme got bored and
wrote:


I see What he was showing is that if you have two (or more) space
characters between the classes specified in a class attribute, then
IE5/Mac will crap up, eg. 'class="foo bar"'.

Whereas using 'class="foo bar"' will work just fine, with IE5/Mac using
both the foo and bar classes.

The problem here, as I suggested earlier, is that IE5/Mac does not cope
well with optional spaces.

OK I get it now, it /does/ do strange things... and it does
different strange things according to whether you have the
double space between foo and bar in the first div or the second.
Anyway, that is interesting to me, something I don't notice
because of my habits (not to have such spaces and to be rid of
them by grep search and replaces anyway). Thanks for this. In
the future, if anyone says anything I find puzzling, I am going
straight to you to clear it up. I did this accidentally just
now, in future it will be deliberate.

 

[Dylan Parry]

Trapped in the departure lounge at alt.html, dorayme got bored and
wrote:

I find puzzling, I am going straight to you to clear it up.

I think I shall keep you as my pet. Do you prefer Whiskers or Pedigree
Chum?

 

[dorayme]

I think I shall keep you as my pet. Do you prefer Whiskers or Pedigree
Chum?

I don't think I'd like to eat whiskers. But Whiskas, now the
mince meat or the Turkey and Lamb will be fine...

I suppose I better post a picture of myself up for your desk.

http://www.dorayme.150m.com/pics/waitingForDylan.jpg

 

[Luigi Donatello Asero]

I don't think I'd like to eat whiskers. But Whiskas, now the
mince meat or the Turkey and Lamb will be fine...

I suppose I better post a picture of myself up for your desk.

http://www.dorayme.150m.com/pics/waitingForDylan.jpg

This cat seems to be angry or is he hungry?

 

[dorayme]

This cat seems to be angry or is he hungry?

She is neither... she is a sweet contented beast...

 

[Luigi Donatello Asero]

She is neither... she is a sweet contented beast...

How does she get along with sea-gulls?

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, Luigi Donatello Asero quothed:

How does she get along with sea-gulls?

Cats aren't gullible, just ornery.

 

[Dylan Parry]

Trapped in the departure lounge at alt.html, dorayme got bored and
wrote:

I don't think I'd like to eat whiskers. But Whiskas, now the
mince meat or the Turkey and Lamb will be fine...

Heh, that's what I meant Anyway, lamb is my favourite food, so you
can have my leftovers on a Sunday.

I suppose I better post a picture of myself up for your desk.

http://www.dorayme.150m.com/pics/waitingForDylan.jpg

So that's what a Martian looks like? I must have met hundreds of them
before and not even realised it.

 

[Ken Walden]

Hi,

The OP is back. Sorry to have been out of touch for so long - we've had
quite a shakeup here, ironically with the Mac users in the business
deciding to leave and spinoff their own business. So I'll actually be
revising the web sit extensively.

Anyway, the last few suggestions of removing those elements from the
style sheet seem to have really helped, from my quick glance on a
borrowed Mac. I'll have to have them examined thoroughly, but it seems
to have done wonders. I had eliminated all the items in the style
sheets by a process, but that didn't make a noticeable difference. Who
knows.

I had taken those elements from a tutorial on style sheets of some sort
which had suggested them as a basic set of styles. I guess that's what
I get for throwing in stuff I hadn't actually decided on myself.

So thanks a lot for your advice. I'm sure there are still coding
mistakes, as have been pointed out. Although I did fix all the errors
people had pointed out earlier - it's just that the files on the web
site there aren't necessarily my working copies.

I'll let you know how it works out. Thanks.

Ken Walden