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Chris Angelico
Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.
ChrisA
Just a faulty key actuator, I think. Nothing unusual in this world.
ChrisA
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Ferrous Cranus
Στις 27/8/2013 5:25 μμ, ο/η Grant Edwards ÎγÏαψε:
Perhaps....
Then perhaps its just you faulty head understanding my typing.
Perhaps....
Then perhaps its just you faulty head understanding my typing.
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Steven D'Aprano
Guys, PLEASE stop baiting Nikos with snide remarks. It makes this a very
unpleasant environment, and sets the tone of the community, badly.
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Steven D'Aprano
Asking for recommendations for a hosting provider that supports Python 3
very much is on-topic. (Besides, we often have off-topic discussions on
this list.)
Îικόλαος has asked for help finding a Python-friendly hosting company. I
don't know any hosting companies other than what I would discover by
googling, so I can't help him.
Nikos, I'm not interested in getting into a debate about who is to blame
for your website breaking. You have asked your question, nobody is
obliged to help you, if anyone has a recommendation they will reply, and
if they don't, they won't. That is the way things are, so just accept it.
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Ferrous Cranus
Στις 27/8/2013 7:25 μμ, ο/η Steven D'Aprano ÎγÏαψε:
Okey, i can accept that, what i don't accept is fun on my dispense
especially when iam facing such difficulties.
I alredy lost 4 customers
Okey, i can accept that, what i don't accept is fun on my dispense
especially when iam facing such difficulties.
I alredy lost 4 customers
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Steven D'Aprano
I alredy lost 4 customers
Nikos, you are mistaking us for your personal friends. We're not. We
don't care if you lose 4 customers or 400, whether you become successful
web developer and become rich, or end up homeless. Our only relationship
to you is that you are a fellow Python user, and we are volunteering to
help teach people Python. That includes you. But you are just another
stranger half a world away.
I am truly sorry that I have to tell you these harsh truths, but you need
to understand that trying to beg for sympathy is just going to alienate
people and make them less willing to help. You need to be professional
here. That doesn't mean you can't be friendly. Maybe, if you are pleasant
and interesting and give as much help as you receive, you will even make
some friends here. But don't presume that we are your friends and care
about your troubles. We all have troubles of our own.
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Neil Cerutti
I limit myself to one snide remark every time he escapes my
killfile. 'Cause I wish he would stop.
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Gene Heskett
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Antoon Pardon
Op 27-08-13 18:18, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
Why don't you tell Nikos he should stop baiting the list with off topic
requestsm like whether someone is willing to provide him free hosting?
I also think you are over reacting. One thread where people come with
snide remarks doesn't turn the whole newsgroup/mailinglist into an
unpleasant environment.
Why don't you tell Nikos he should stop baiting the list with off topic
requestsm like whether someone is willing to provide him free hosting?
I also think you are over reacting. One thread where people come with
snide remarks doesn't turn the whole newsgroup/mailinglist into an
unpleasant environment.
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Ferrous Cranus
Hello Steven,
Iam not trying to beg for your sympathy, i'am just expressing my frustration for my web hosting issues and i do that because i wanted to ask you for an alternative web service(python 3 enabled).
Its totally human for one to express his own feeling to a python related and web host related issue in a python newsgroup.
Also is a matter of character each person has and iam an open human being and feel like makign friend easy.
Let alone that it is also a business offer for someone that wants to host my limited/joomla websites and make money out of it.
Iam not trying to beg for your sympathy, i'am just expressing my frustration for my web hosting issues and i do that because i wanted to ask you for an alternative web service(python 3 enabled).
Its totally human for one to express his own feeling to a python related and web host related issue in a python newsgroup.
Also is a matter of character each person has and iam an open human being and feel like makign friend easy.
Let alone that it is also a business offer for someone that wants to host my limited/joomla websites and make money out of it.
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Steven D'Aprano
I quote:
1. I will pay for a full year upfront but it must be a low price
for the 1st year, because i have already paid them and cant get my
money back to use it to the new com opany.
I get it. You don't like Nikos. I'm not suggesting you should. But
misrepresenting him is Not Cool. He has offered to pay.
Besides, Python-friendly web hosting is not off-topic. Plenty of people
have asked for recommendations on hosting providers that support Python
before.
My wife often tells me it is a miracle that I don't forget my own name,
but even my memory is not so bad as to forget just how unpleasant and
hostile this list became a month or so ago when a whole bunch of people
decided to drive Nikos away, and he decided to fight back.
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Antoon Pardon
Op 28-08-13 13:25, Steven D'Aprano schreef:
You are quoting selectively.
IMO you are misrepresenting by quoting selectively. This from earlier
in that same post:
| So, if someone want to help me out it would be nice if he could
| provide me with services free of charge for that time period, or at
| least at the end of they year.
That he offered to pay, doesn't contradict his primary request is for
services free of charge.
He didn't ask for people experiences with various hosting providers. He
was asking people here to provide hosting services for him.
This list didn't became unpleasand and hostile. The hostility was
contained to a few threads. It was easy enough to avoid the hostility
if that was important enough to you.
I also find your reporting on the facts misleading. People didn't just
decide to drive Nikos away. People were getting fed up with the ongoing
annoying behaviour of Nikos. It wasn't Nikos who decided to fight back,
it were the people who had enough of Nikos's inconsiderate behaviour
who decided to fight back.
You are quoting selectively.
IMO you are misrepresenting by quoting selectively. This from earlier
in that same post:
| So, if someone want to help me out it would be nice if he could
| provide me with services free of charge for that time period, or at
| least at the end of they year.
That he offered to pay, doesn't contradict his primary request is for
services free of charge.
He didn't ask for people experiences with various hosting providers. He
was asking people here to provide hosting services for him.
This list didn't became unpleasand and hostile. The hostility was
contained to a few threads. It was easy enough to avoid the hostility
if that was important enough to you.
I also find your reporting on the facts misleading. People didn't just
decide to drive Nikos away. People were getting fed up with the ongoing
annoying behaviour of Nikos. It wasn't Nikos who decided to fight back,
it were the people who had enough of Nikos's inconsiderate behaviour
who decided to fight back.