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dorayme

Joy Beeson said:
That's going to be big news to the all-female fellowship committee at
the nearest Free Methodist church.

The use of "fellowship", as with "he" or "him" does not really imply
that men are being talked about. It is an old convention. Bit like
saying "mankind" or "human". Some writers have taken to saying "she"
when they are not particularly meaning female, this can strike some
readers as a little too stridently trying to redress a historical bias.
On the other hand, one can have sympathy with such writers because their
only alternative is to simply parade this bias forever.

English could do with a pronoun that meant either male or female rather
than "he" (or in modern writing, sometimes, "she" to do the job).

If only all earthlings could be like me where "it" is a perfectly apt
way of referring to me.
 
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dorayme

Joy Beeson said:
"It" used to be a perfectly normal way to refer to an unspecified
human, or one of a mixed group. This sometimes gives me a turn when
reading old books, as in "the children managed to crowd themselves
into the carriage without anyone getting its feet stepped on."

Joy Beeson

Iteresting. I know that a baby or small child, often to the dismay of
mothers, are referred to as it. Perhaps this is one of those variations.

If you come across references like this with adults in mind I would be
interested to see.

"the soldiers managed to crowd themselves into the carriage without
anyone getting its feet shot off by way of safety catches being jostled
off"
 
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Els

dorayme said:
"the soldiers managed to crowd themselves into the carriage without
anyone getting its feet shot off by way of safety catches being jostled
off"

I'd have to read that as the carriage having feet...
 
N

Neredbojias

He might want to know that a substitute would be "meet in
fellowship," or "come together in fellowship."

But that still leaves out the ladies, even the finest Aussie ones.

Over here in the states one can find lots of fellow-ladies if one looks
in the right clubs.
 
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freemont

Your friend might be educated by looking at www.oswd.org and seeing how
real coding is done.

heheh...
<div class="topline">NAME</div>
<div class="line1">This is line one</div> <div class="line2">this lis
line two</div>

Yuck. I hate this sort of crap, which is so prevalent at oswd. Every damn
thing on a web page doesn't go in its own <div>. I suppose the css for
"topline" would make it resemble an <h1>. Ridiculous.
 
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Peter J Ross

In alt.html on Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:19:53 +0100, +mrcakey
In what way is it not badly designed?!!!!!

The title is at the top, the menu is at the left, and the colours and
images aren't bad. The realisation of the design in markup is the only
thing I really object to.
 
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dorayme

Els said:
I'd have to read that as the carriage having feet...

Yes, that would be one reading! I forget if The Little Engine That Could
had feet. Just btw, of course. <g>
 

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