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Kathleen said:Dispite all these arguments, it still doesn't address the issue at
hand. As if it's being avoided.
Every average user I speak of about web issues *prefer* pop ups in the
type of implemation that I use them for (larger images, and outside
links), to the point of requesting their implementation.
Are you saying that slideshow can not be faster, more efficient and
better than popups from an accessibility and usability perspectives in
many cases?
The reason why there are "pop up blockers" is because users don't want
ads, or extra drivel when they are surfing. That is also why the
Google blocker is considered a "smart blocker" because it allows user
initiated pop ups.
Browser manufacturers and popup killer softwares are well aware of the
difference between a requested popup and an unrequested popup.
Thats what I have in my site - user initiated pop ups. The back
button isn't "broken" because the pop ups are smaller than the screen
size. Even if the user is browsing non-full screen, any pop ups will
be offset from the original location. Thusly, it's known it's a pop
up, and only causing minimal cases of "broken back button" confusion.
"(...) Users often don't notice that a new window has opened, especially
if they are using a small monitor where the windows are maximized to
fill up the screen. So a user who tries to return to the origin will be
confused by a grayed out Back button." Jakob Nielsen, The Top Ten New
Mistakes of Web Design: 2. Opening New Browser Windows, May 30, 1999
My original request for a pop up simply was for a gallery of images.
Thank you for clarifying this. It would have been nice to say so from
the beginning though in your original post without multi-posting in
newsgroups.
Anyone who regularly peruses through galleries expects the larger
images to be popped up. It's not like I came up with this idea out of
the blue. I used many different presidences that were recomended,
weeding out ones with greater evils (frames), and choosing the most
popular, and slowly modifying things along with user requests.
Are you of the opinion that slideshows can not a defendable and
responsible website alternative decision to popups?
The "over whelming majority of the time is unnessisary" was
mentioned... but many are behaving as if it should never be done. A
pop up is not a f** nightmare, as being compared to. User initiated
pop ups are far from that to even those who are hyper sensitive to pop
ups on the web.
Modal popups are the worse and understandably upset users.
Destroying and then re-creating popup windows is very common in websites
and the poor coding involved just abuse and misuse user system resources
(cpu, RAM, time to render, et.c.)
Most of the time, popups coding assume that javascript support is
enabled when 8 - 12% of users have javascript turn off.
I would say that above 90% of all sites with a popup generator, popup
maker, copy-N-paste javascript sites have very bad code. I've said so in
the past and have given examples of this in comp.lang.javascript newsgroup.
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- Resources, help and tips for Netscape 7.x users and Composer
- Interactive demos on Popup windows, music (audio/midi) in Netscape 7.x
http://www10.brinkster.com/doctorunclear/Netscape7/Netscape7Section.html