Problem with bold font not being used

[Martin]

I have these entries in a .css file that is linked to several
different web pages:

body
{font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;
background-image:"../WebGraphics/background.gif"; }

table
{font-family:arial; font-weight: bold;}

But on some pages, the bold font is not being used in a table. The
only thing I can see is that these tables happen to be in a FORM.
Could that be the problem? Or should I be looking for something else?

 

[Martin]

I have these entries in a .css file that is linked to several
different web pages:

body
{font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;
background-image:"../WebGraphics/background.gif"; }

table
{font-family:arial; font-weight: bold;}

But on some pages, the bold font is not being used in a table. The
only thing I can see is that these tables happen to be in a FORM.
Could that be the problem? Or should I be looking for something else?

Upon some further investigation, it seems to be a problem only when
viewing the page in Firefox. In IE, the bolding shows up ok.

Is there some setting in FF that I need to adjust to get it to use
linked .css files?

 

[dorayme]

Upon some further investigation, it seems to be a problem only when
viewing the page in Firefox. In IE, the bolding shows up ok.

Is there some setting in FF that I need to adjust to get it to use
linked .css files?

You surely can tell if your FF is using a css file at all. If the
file concerned is populated with styles, is there a difference
between the look when you go to View menu/Page Style/ and tick No
Style and look and then compare with Basic Page Style.

Under no circumstances, no matter how beguiling or cunning or
polite or rude or sarcastic or impatient a request by anyone here
for a URL to your page, do not succumb. Never give a URL so that
everyone can see exactly what is going on because the matter is
then in danger of being settled too quickly.

 

[Martin]

Under no circumstances, no matter how beguiling or cunning or
polite or rude or sarcastic or impatient a request by anyone here
for a URL to your page, do not succumb. Never give a URL so that
everyone can see exactly what is going on because the matter is
then in danger of being settled too quickly.

Does anyone here know of an HTML newsgroup that is populated by ADULTS
that are capable of answering questions without resorting to snide
comments?

 

[Mike S]

Does anyone here know of an HTML newsgroup that is populated by ADULTS
that are capable of answering questions without resorting to snide
comments?

Very effective public relations, you're sure to get tons of help with
that approach.

 

[dorayme]

Does anyone here know of an HTML newsgroup that is populated by ADULTS
that are capable of answering questions without resorting to snide
comments?

Just because a child said:

You surely can tell if your FF is using a css file at all. If the
file concerned is populated with styles, is there a difference
between the look when you go to View menu/Page Style/ and tick No
Style and look and then compare with Basic Page Style.

Is it a reason to take no notice? What have you got against
children?

Hey, mister, I dunno what I am going to be when I grow up, but
I'm sure to be nice to children - *unless* they are like Peter
Gosling, who has just pinched my jam sandwich and run off to the
other side of the playground where the very little kids like me
are not allowed to go.

 

[richard]

I have these entries in a .css file that is linked to several
different web pages:

body
{font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;
background-image:"../WebGraphics/background.gif"; }

table
{font-family:arial; font-weight: bold;}

But on some pages, the bold font is not being used in a table. The
only thing I can see is that these tables happen to be in a FORM.
Could that be the problem? Or should I be looking for something else?

why not try using:
form {font-weight:bold;}
if you want to be more specific, give only that item a unique class name
and style it through that class name.
Or use inline styling.

 

[richard]

I have these entries in a .css file that is linked to several
different web pages:

body
{font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;
background-image:"../WebGraphics/background.gif"; }

table
{font-family:arial; font-weight: bold;}

But on some pages, the bold font is not being used in a table. The
only thing I can see is that these tables happen to be in a FORM.
Could that be the problem? Or should I be looking for something else?

btw, dorayme was snickering at the clowns in this group who always insist
that for the simplest of problems, a URL MUST be given or they don't help.
Said clowns then want to tear your work down by the smallest of details.
Even though they will never post a URL of theirs in fear of being ridiculed
by others.

 

[Jukka K. Korpela]

16.5.2011 7:26, Ed Mullen kirjoitti:

dorayme's comment was couched in an
amusing tone (obviously not to you) but the comment was dead on.

It was a useful comment indeed. Never post a URL if you wish to prevent
people from solving your problem. That was dead serious, of course.
(Some wannabe trolls have failed miserably in their trolling when they
did not know that.)

If you
want real help provide real-world circumstances. We're not freaking mind
readers.

To be honest, some of us _are_ mind readers. But they tend to make
better money elsewhere, so they just casually give free help here.

Personally I'm just a novice mind reader, and I can only dimly see that
there is an error on line 42.

But I can clearly see that the OP sets the overall font to bold, which
is a sign of trolling or great ignorance or extremely special hacking. I
give the last alternative an undescribably small probability.

P.S. It takes no mindreading to see that the OP had not used the W3C CSS
Validator to check the syntax of the stylesheet, so he seems to refuse
to get help from computers, too.

 

[Denis McMahon]

btw, dorayme was snickering at the clowns in this group who always
insist that for the simplest of problems, a URL MUST be given ....

No he wasn't. You just didn't get it. Again.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

 

[Doug Miller]

Does anyone here know of an HTML newsgroup that is populated by ADULTS
that are capable of answering questions without resorting to snide
comments?

In less time than it took you to type that, you *could* have typed "Oh, sorry,
here's the URL: http://www.its_your_fault_that_I_dont_know_what_Im_doing.com"

 

[jeff]

I have these entries in a .css file that is linked to several
different web pages:

body
{font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;
background-image:"../WebGraphics/background.gif"; }

table
{font-family:arial; font-weight: bold;}

But on some pages, the bold font is not being used in a table. The
only thing I can see is that these tables happen to be in a FORM.
Could that be the problem? Or should I be looking for something else?

Unknown variables including which UA and which doctype.

Old and funky fix used to be:

table,tr,td{
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;
}

Arial should be capitalized, btw.

With modern browsers and doctypes that should not be needed.

mung

 

[Martin]

why not try using:
form {font-weight:bold;}
if you want to be more specific, give only that item a unique class name
and style it through that class name.
Or use inline styling.

Thanks, Richard

I moved the css statements from the external file into the page's
<head> section and everything appears just fine now.

I had this same problem on another page (that used a different .css
file). Making the same kind of change fixed that one also.

Doesn't make any sense but it works.

Thanks again.

 

[richard]

Thanks, Richard

I moved the css statements from the external file into the page's
<head> section and everything appears just fine now.

I had this same problem on another page (that used a different .css
file). Making the same kind of change fixed that one also.

Doesn't make any sense but it works.

Thanks again.

CSS always goes in the head unless you're using inline.

<head>
<style type="text/css">
body {}
table {}
</style>
</head>

<body>
<div style="font-weight:bold;">
text
</div>
</body>

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

CSS always goes in the head unless you're using inline.

Or in an external file.

<head> ...
<link type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" href="../path/to/styles.css" >
</head>

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

Or in an external file.

<head> ...
<link type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" href="../path/to/styles.css">
</head>

BEST in an external file, especially from a management perspective. As
to the OP, any advice would be a WAG without actually *seeing* what you
did. Moving the css to the head may indicate a change in the order of
the rules from the original stylesheet, a syntax error, or simply a path
problem to the stylesheet! But my crystal ball is on the fritz...

 

[Martin]

BEST in an external file, especially from a management perspective. As
to the OP, any advice would be a WAG without actually *seeing* what you
did. Moving the css to the head may indicate a change in the order of
the rules from the original stylesheet, a syntax error, or simply a path
problem to the stylesheet! But my crystal ball is on the fritz...

The external .css file contained these lines:
body {font-family:arial;font-weight:bold;}
table {font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;}
td.padded, th.padded {padding-left:1em; padding-right:1em;}
input {font-weight:bold;}

These lines were copied into the <head> section of the page in the
same place where the <link> statement was.

IOW, This:
<link type='text/css' rel='stylesheet' href='../includes/DBStyle.css'>

was replaced with:
<style type='text/css' >
body {font-family:arial;font-weight:bold;}
table {font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;}
td.padded, th.padded {padding-left:1em; padding-right:1em;}
input {font-weight:bold;}
</style>


Just for the heck of it, I just now switched it back - commented out
the <style> block and put the <link> back in (as shown above).
When I load the page into FF, the fonts are not bolded. When I look at
the error console, this message is displayed:

Error: The stylesheet http://localhost/includes/DBStyle.css was not
loaded because its MIME type, "text/html", is not "text/css"

Does the mime type need to be specified in some manner?

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

"Jonathan N. Little"

The external .css file contained these lines:
body {font-family:arial;font-weight:bold;}
table {font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;}
td.padded, th.padded {padding-left:1em; padding-right:1em;}
input {font-weight:bold;}

These lines were copied into the <head> section of the page in the
same place where the <link> statement was.

IOW, This:
<link type='text/css' rel='stylesheet' href='../includes/DBStyle.css'>

was replaced with:
<style type='text/css' >
body {font-family:arial;font-weight:bold;}
table {font-family:arial; font-weight:bold;}
td.padded, th.padded {padding-left:1em; padding-right:1em;}
input {font-weight:bold;}
</style>

Just for the heck of it, I just now switched it back - commented out
the <style> block and put the <link> back in (as shown above). When I
load the page into FF, the fonts are not bolded. When I look at the
error console, this message is displayed:

Error: The stylesheet http://localhost/includes/DBStyle.css was not
loaded because its MIME type, "text/html", is not "text/css"

Does the mime type need to be specified in some manner?

If we could see your page, would we find such markup as:

<table>
<tr>
<td class='padded'> supposedly bold text here </td>

You have no 'bold' setting for td.

What operating system is your localhost server on?
(DBStyle not same as dbstyle, except on Windows)

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

Martin wrote:

Yes


If we could see your page, would we find such markup as:

<table>
<tr>
<td class='padded'> supposedly bold text here</td>

You have no 'bold' setting for td.

What operating system is your localhost server on?
(DBStyle not same as dbstyle, except on Windows)

Or the css/text mime type may not be set for the extension ".css" on the
server.

 

[Jukka K. Korpela]

16.5.2011 22:18, Beauregard T. Shagnasty kirjoitti:

Or in an external file.

Or in the body. It's non-conforming and syntactically invalid (against
published DTDs) to put a <style> element inside the <body> element, but
it actually works in browsers, even backwards (i.e., the CSS rules there
are also applied to elements that precede the <style> element).