julio wrote:
With a subject like that, you don't really need to read the message to figure
out that it's an obvious troll. I don't want to feed it, but between all the
"crap" and "retarded" rhetoric, some actual points can be discerned. A few
comments are in order...
What does c# .net has that python doesnt ? (significant features)
-- tools,tools,tools : have people that likes python ever used an ide? i
mean a good ide, the one that saves you a lot of time, and makes you
productive.
Such an IDE will only make you significantly more productive if the language is
inherently *UN*productive. There's a reason full-fledged IDEs are popular with
languages like Java and C# and less popular with Python. I haven't done much
Java programming, but when I did, I was constantly looking up stuff (classes,
methods, types, etc); in that kind of environment, code completion, tooltips
etc are very useful. Without them, programming in these languages is (even
more of) a pain. In Python, I don't very often need to look things up, and if
I do, the interactive interpreter can be a great help. As a result, a text
editor suffices for most Python programming, even for large projects. (Some
people might want to use an IDE anyway, but that is mostly a matter of
preference, not of necessity.)
-- C # is almost perfetly designed, python is very well designed but it has
some crap that obscurize it and is not going to be removed because of the
damn backwards compatibility thing,
The "damn backwards compatibility thing" guarantees that older Python code
still runs, more or less unchanged, on recent interpreters. (Well, most of the
time.)
-- C # is easy to use,fast apps coding (as python) but!! it has all the
advantages of a compiled language , like less bugs concerning silly types
mistakes , ides and tools can take much much more advantage of static
typing , it is much much much faster , and finally is much more readable
than python since i dont have to be guessing in the woods to know what type
of value a function return , or what types are the functions argument or
WTF does 'return MOM' means?
This is only an issue if you think the actual types of things are important.
Code like
def foo(x, y):
x.this()
y.that()
doesn't *need* types. All Python cares about is that x has the this() method,
and that y has the that() method. The actual types are unimportant. This is
an important difference from languages like C# (and Java, ObjectPascal, C++,
yadda yadda), and allows for entirely different coding styles and design. If
you think this is a problem or a deficiency, then you don't understand what
Python (or dynamic languages in general, really) is all about.
-- C # is killing python, first the gnome guys dont know what to choose for
their core system development , if mono-C # ? or java ? the only reason C #
hasnt being choosen is because of legal issues, and java? well it realy
sucks so no surprise , but is considered just because eclipse wich is the
most kick ass ide ever. AND they dont even consider python for a high level
language to choose!!
If they're choosing between Java and C#, they were obviously not interested in
high-level languages. Also, the article you mention in another post
(
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/applications/0,39020384,39166682,00.htm) says:
"""Waugh conceded that the decision to move to a higher level programming
language is partly a political one. Two major corporate backers of the GNOME
project have competing technologies -- Novell with the Mono project and Sun
Microsystems with Java."""
