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Garrett Smith
I meant that if I were to post "you guys are arrogantly out of control"Garrett said:
on w3c lists that would be flame bait.
on w3c lists that would be flame bait.
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Garrett Smith
David said:
Anyone who says they never lie about anything is full of it.
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David Mark
Garrett said:
I see. And how do I know you aren't lying about that?
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David Mark
Garrett said:David said:
It might be misused but does that make it totally meaningless?
And you don't consider this "Roja" post to fit the classic definition of
trolling? And how about the various anonymous twits that pop in to
insult the entire NG every time a critical code review is posted? Those
are trolls in the classic sense.
Perhaps you are referring to my arguments with you?
Yes I have been the brunt of your name calling and I don't know why you
would be happy about that. what you say about me says more about you
than it does about me at this point.
Searching last night, I stumbled onto one of your typical "have your
cake and eat it too" veiled references. You like to call names
without actually naming names, which is pretty weak (particularly on
the Internet where there is no chance of coming out of it with a
bloody nose).
Since you seem to be into nostalgia (specifically regarding my posts),
I thought you might find it interesting.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.javascript/msg/e1979e332400a370
"Some individuals point out shortcomings in jq. Others parrot those
points, obnoxiously."
That's obviously directed at me. Parroting implies mimicry and
repetition. The latter is necessary as there is a constant influx of
new readers who rarely read posts that predate their presence (and who
do you think packs them in here?) Sure it can be tiresome to regular
readers, but so what? Feel free to skip my posts (or even filter
them).
And later in that post:-
""There's the - attr - which still deals with property/attribute
ambiguously, and that can cause more divergence between browsers than
it
solves. "
Now, who's parroting who? And a pretty weak rendition to boot.
It's the same old story. You can't stand the fact that _you_ haven't
changed the game. I'm not saying you couldn't have; but, for whatever
reason, you didn't. And piggy-backing on my posts isn't going to
bring you any glory either. In fact, this sort of off-topic babbling
about _me_ has got to be more tiresome to regulars than my code
reviews (which are, after all, on topic for this group).
And speaking of the reviews, as Peter alluded to, do you really think
the message would have seeped through (eventually) if it hadn't been
REALLY LOUD (obnoxious in your spin). I don't.
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Roja Gilwreathe
You can't stand the fact that _you_ haven't
YOU could change the game, David. You're a smart, conscientious
developer with an authoritative knowledge of the intricacies of
browsers, and you're devoted to furthering your knowledge and
preaching doing things the right way.
However, it seems you only you want to be right if it makes someone
else wrong. Bug reports are constantly framed in the context of what
the major libraries are doing wrong. You won't go to a conference and
share with the community because it's a waste of your time. You don't
market My Library because you might have to actually support people
who don't already know everything you do.
So instead of changing the game, you're just mean. About everything.
All the time. Always. And you won't help a project unless they want
to accept that help with a heaping dose of your vindictive attitude.
YOU could change the game, David. You're a smart, conscientious
developer with an authoritative knowledge of the intricacies of
browsers, and you're devoted to furthering your knowledge and
preaching doing things the right way.
However, it seems you only you want to be right if it makes someone
else wrong. Bug reports are constantly framed in the context of what
the major libraries are doing wrong. You won't go to a conference and
share with the community because it's a waste of your time. You don't
market My Library because you might have to actually support people
who don't already know everything you do.
So instead of changing the game, you're just mean. About everything.
All the time. Always. And you won't help a project unless they want
to accept that help with a heaping dose of your vindictive attitude.
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Cody Haines
I hate to respond to such a useless attempt at anonymity. Seriously:
post with your real name, it's not like David's going to go hunt you
down.
But you make multiple good points.
the best, if not THE best there is out there today.
speak at a conference either (as if I'd be asked), because honestly, the
message can be gotten across just as clearly through places like these.
Maybe him not marketing MyLibrary (which he has claimed he does plan on
doing in the near future, IIRC) is somewhat selfish, but he's entitled
to that.
True, but so are the vast majority of people on this NG, the vast
majority of the time. I hang around becaus they are some of the best,
and if you can cut through all the inane bickering, they all make rather
valid points.
Just my two cents
post with your real name, it's not like David's going to go hunt you
down.
But you make multiple good points.
That'd be your first good point. Nobody here denies that he is one of
the best, if not THE best there is out there today.
You say some of these things like their terrible. TBH, I wouldn't go
speak at a conference either (as if I'd be asked), because honestly, the
message can be gotten across just as clearly through places like these.
Maybe him not marketing MyLibrary (which he has claimed he does plan on
doing in the near future, IIRC) is somewhat selfish, but he's entitled
to that.
True, but so are the vast majority of people on this NG, the vast
majority of the time. I hang around becaus they are some of the best,
and if you can cut through all the inane bickering, they all make rather
valid points.
Just my two cents