G
Gennaro Prota
So he hates C++ and thinks that he writes good code. Now, why do
you think that this newsgroup cares about that? Please, take
this discussion elsewhere.
So he hates C++ and thinks that he writes good code. Now, why do
you think that this newsgroup cares about that? Please, take
this discussion elsewhere.
R
Rui Maciel
Gennaro said:
How quaint. You actually believe that you speak for other people besides yourself?
Either way, if you really don't care about this discussion then act accordingly and simply don't
post in this thread.
Rui Maciel
G
Gennaro Prota
Do not forget that *you* are off-topic. I don't care about the
topic of discussion but I do care that no noise is generated on
the newsgroup.
That being said, I won't post any further in this thread.
D
Daniel Pitts
I, for one, actually appreciate this thread. I admit, I'm primarily a
Java programmer, and I'm more fond of C++ than C, but its good to know
what other people thing about things.
Especially if the thoughts are different than mine.
I
Ian Collins
It was worse than that; most C compiler in common used (at least in the
embedded world) were pre-standard. I think the Russian roulette that
was large C projects without function prototypes is one of those painful
memories we tend to deliberately forget!
Around 92 was also the first time I managed to get a largish C team to
agree to making their code compile with a C++ compiler in order to
overcome the lack of diagnostics form the C one.
R
Rui Maciel
Gennaro said:
Oh really? Can you actually name them?
So stop making that noise and stop posting on this thread you supposedly aren't interested in.
Everybody wins, specially your constituents.
Rui Maciel.
J
Jorgen Grahn
If mainstream use of C++ is on topic, then Linus' opinions are. There
are plenty of good C programmers in the Unix camp who strongly dislike
C++.
/Jorgen
B
Bo Persson
Rui Maciel said:
He obviously doesn't, but the blaim perhaps shouldn't be on the
language. If you check the other reference
http://lwn.net/Articles/249460/
he seems to believe that all bad programmers use C++, because he
hasn't met the good ones. Could that depend on him? What is it that
actually sucks?
Bo Persson
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Rui Maciel
Bo said:
Yes, his reasoning that serves as a basis for his anti-C++ stance is, at best, deeply flawed. He
goes on a rant over "substandard programmers" (which has absolutely nothing to do with the language
being used), then he goes on to criticize the STL although he fails to base any of his allegations.
Both his points are essencially meaningless and at best amount to his subjective, personal taste.
The rest of his comment is void of any real content. So, in essence, it's all crap.
Although it's quite understandable why it would be better to limit linux's code to C and to
standardize a project on a single programming language, he would've done far better if he just said
his choice amounts to a personal choice, nothing more. I fail to see why he feels it's necessary to
insult a bunch of people in the process.
Rui Maciel
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Victor Bazarov
<myOT> Are you kidding? How do you make something better? You either
improve it, or make everything else worse (the latter is actually
impossible). How do you make something *appear* better? You either get
somebody to praise it or belittle everything else (at least everything
important). If no belittling is done in the process, the
technology/activity/policy/etc. will be judged on its own merits (if
any). Have you never seen negative political adverts where the running
candidate throws mud at some other politician
running next to them? It creates an illusion that what is being
promoted is actually better than what's out there. And since there is
basically no reciprocity from the C++ side, the public at large tends to
see this fight as won by Linux/-s. </myOT>
V