SOT gmail invites

[Austin Ziegler]

Ok, I just can't stand it anymore. I'm not necessarily interested in an
invite, but I'm dying to hear from those who have gmail accounts: what
is it about gmail that you like so much? Or is it one of those things
that you have to actually *try*, in order to understand, like dependency
injection?

I find that it's the best interface that I've had for reading
high-volume mailing lists. Like ruby-talk.

-austin

 

[James Britt]

Ok, I just can't stand it anymore. I'm not necessarily interested in an
invite, but I'm dying to hear from those who have gmail accounts: what
is it about gmail that you like so much? Or is it one of those things
that you have to actually *try*, in order to understand, like dependency
injection?

Well, first off, I want to be, like, cool. So I finally got an invite
from my friend's 13-year-old son, who obviously is cooler than me.

Actually, I was curious to see if Google would/did wrap interesting
search/link/whatever features into it. It turns out to be a handy
address for assorted registration forms where I have to wait for an
access key or password.

Google has added pop3 access, so it's easier now for me to check my
mail; Thunderbird does it for me. Pop3 + Google also provides Yet
Another Remote Storage or Message Queue toy.

Just stuff to play with.

James

 

[coke]

Reasons why I think gmail is so much better than other email services:

1gig of space.
The iface.
The serach menu.
I can mark inportmant emails for later viewing.
I can have all ruby talk emails sent to it's own section so my inbox
doesn't clutter.
I never have to delete another email forever, unless it's spam.
I can attach a large number of files.
Gmail is owned by one of most visted serach engines on the net.
No ad's except google's ad's and there are very few of those and not
all over the place I other email services.



This is why I use gmail and no other.

 

[Daniel Hobe]

I have ~80 left if some people missed out. Message me privately if you
want one.

 

[Michael Hanisch]

Am Do, 2004-12-02 um 05.34 schrieb Daniel Hobe:

I have ~80 left if some people missed out. Message me privately if you
want one.

Daniel,

if there's still one of those 80 left, I'd be glad to have one...

Cheers,
Michael.

 

[tony summerfelt]

I find that it's the best interface that I've had for reading
high-volume mailing lists. Like ruby-talk.

and because google is scanning your email (that's a gotcha that hasn't
been mentioned anybody archiving their ruby email via gmail, is
actually helping ruby's 'presence' on the web a little bit...
http://home.cogeco.ca/~tsummerfelt1
telnet://ventedspleen.dyndns.org

 

[Mark Hubbart]

and because google is scanning your email (that's a gotcha that hasn't
been mentioned anybody archiving their ruby email via gmail, is
actually helping ruby's 'presence' on the web a little bit...

Hmmm? afaik, they are only scanning it to provide targeted ads and
personal search capability. How does this affect web presence?

cheers,
Mark

oh, and I'm out of invites now.

 

[Giovanni Intini]

Ok I spent all of my invites
If anyone has been left out I will try to invite if/when I get more invites.

Enjoy G-mailing-list-mail

 

[Dave Schaeffer]

I have ~80 left if some people missed out. Message me privately if you
want one.

Hi Daniel,

If you have any invites left I would like one. I did try to E-mail you
directly but it got bounced back.

Dave

 

[Stefan Schmiedl]

Ok, I just can't stand it anymore. I'm not necessarily interested in an
invite, but I'm dying to hear from those who have gmail accounts: what
is it about gmail that you like so much? Or is it one of those things
that you have to actually *try*, in order to understand, like dependency
injection?

Warning: Rambling rant ahead.

My personal take is that they just wanted to make sure that
*everybody* is keen on getting an account. Make it exclusive,
by invitation only. Seeding it amongst the geekest of geeks,
first generation invites went quickly. But seemingly invited
users got their own share of invites.

Now it has become a practical test for the claim that every two people
in the U.S. can build a chain of mutually known persons of maximum
length 6. If that is true, how many invites per person would you need to
reach saturation?

Make people sign up and store their information on your company disks?
Easy. Instead of crawling and begging them for their data, be a snob
and make it a challenge for them. They will fall for it.

On my box I have gobs of gigabytes for email storage, no ads
and a very fast interface via procmail, formail, mutt and grep.
I will not entrust a company with a service I can provide just
as good. I will be the last one without a Google email address.

s.

 

[slumos]

(*ponders how to do this in Ruby*)

I think this will make a good Kata when I get off work today.

[-51].pack('L').unpack('L')[0] #=> slightly more than 2/3 of humanity
;-)

Steve

 

[Jamis Buck]

Warning: Rambling rant ahead.

My personal take is that they just wanted to make sure that
*everybody* is keen on getting an account. Make it exclusive,
by invitation only. Seeding it amongst the geekest of geeks,
first generation invites went quickly. But seemingly invited
users got their own share of invites.

Now it has become a practical test for the claim that every two people
in the U.S. can build a chain of mutually known persons of maximum
length 6. If that is true, how many invites per person would you need to
reach saturation?

Make people sign up and store their information on your company disks?
Easy. Instead of crawling and begging them for their data, be a snob
and make it a challenge for them. They will fall for it.

On my box I have gobs of gigabytes for email storage, no ads
and a very fast interface via procmail, formail, mutt and grep.
I will not entrust a company with a service I can provide just
as good. I will be the last one without a Google email address.

Phew. Okay. For a minute there I thought I must be the only one
skeptical of the "gmail hype".

I, too, am quite happy with my existing email arrangement. That being
the case, I suppose there is little (if any) reason for me to move to gmail.

Thanks to everyone that responded!

- Jamis

 

[Carl Youngblood]

Phew. Okay. For a minute there I thought I must be the only one
skeptical of the "gmail hype".

I, too, am quite happy with my existing email arrangement. That being
the case, I suppose there is little (if any) reason for me to move to
gmail.

One of the most innovative things that Gmail does is organize your
emails into conversations. Rather than having 10 rows in your inbox for
a message, there is only one, and the messages are all shown in the same
view, one after another, with only the relevant (non-quoted) parts
shown. You can expand the quoted portions if you want, but by default
they're off, so it is really good at cutting to the chase and showing
you only what you need to see in as compact a form as possible.

The conversation system is not the same as a threaded view, by the way.
In the threaded view, you still have to wade through tons of
unwanted/previously-seen material before you get to what you want.
Thunderbird could really do well if they added something like this.
It's probably patented though.

Carl

 

[Carl Youngblood]

One of the most innovative things that Gmail does is organize your
emails into conversations. Rather than having 10 rows in your inbox
for a message, there is only one, and the messages are all shown in
the same view, one after another, with only the relevant

Clarification: I mean to say, "rather than having 10 rows in your inbox
for 10 messages about a single topic..."

 

[Carl Youngblood]

The conversation system is not the same as a threaded view, by the
way. In the threaded view, you still have to wade through tons of
unwanted/previously-seen material before you get to what you want.
Thunderbird could really do well if they added something like this.
It's probably patented though.

Some more clarification. All the threaded views in email clients that
I've seen order threads by the date of the first message in the thread.
So if a new message comes in, it gets added to a thread that is halfway
down the list of threads. Gmail always puts the conversations with the
most recent activity at the top of the list. It is a very thoughtful
and intuitive interface, regardless of the privacy concerns, and other
programs would be wise to learn from it.

 

[Bill Kelly]

One of the most innovative things that Gmail does is organize your

emails into conversations. [...]
It's probably patented though.

Man I hope not. I've never seen Gmail, I've been thinking
about threading communiation by conversation for a long time.

If i had 3 wishes, I think after

- cure all disease
- end world hunger problems

#3 would be REVOKE THE POSSIBILITY TO PATENT IDEAS.



Sorry, ... had to vent... Just found out MP3 is patented
yesterday. I've been working on an AI project for a number
of years now... (hey, and in Ruby, to be slightly on-topic
...and I have little doubt that if it is ever successful,
suddenly lawyers will come crawling out of the woodwork
with claims on IDEAS that I've independently developed.
If there's any way I can, I want to release EVERYTHING I do
in some way that it CAN NOT be patented (if it isn't already.)

Software patents are like, if you play guitar, Eddie Van Halen
patenting Tapping (two-handed hammer-on technique). The damned
*IDEA* is the easy part. It's the implementation that's hard.

Argh.

Ok sorry...


Regards,

Bill

 

[Zach Dennis]

Software patents are like, if you play guitar, Eddie Van Halen
patenting Tapping (two-handed hammer-on technique). The damned
*IDEA* is the easy part. It's the implementation that's hard.

I'd like to patent that the color black goes with anything. I'd also
like to patent that pastel colors are "spring" colors, and "fall" colors
invole red, yellow, orange and brown.

I'd also like to patent the idea that computers should be used by
everyday people doing everyday things, like email...

=)

Argh.

Ok sorry...

Me to.

Zach

 

[Glenn Parker]

#3 would be REVOKE THE POSSIBILITY TO PATENT IDEAS.

Sorry to push this topic even further off course, but this is near and
dear to me, and it certainly affects everyone on this list, even those
living outside the U.S.

If you are concerned about the abuse of software patents, there is some
encouraging activity these days. Both the Electronic Frontier
Foundation (http://www.eff.org/patent), and the Public Patent Foundation
(http://www.pubpat.org) are researching and persuing court cases in the
U.S. to challenge bad patents. Both foundations could use your support.

See also: http://www.eff.org/effector/17/18.php#II

 

[coke]

I have some extra invites left:

http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-f54f96ecca-ea5f126ef5
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-28aaaa3964-93d3ff1a3c
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-c990870b37-ccf09a5c74
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-23de02eb23-bbfb1cf76e
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-b65b35635a-2e18973da6
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-1f72cdbd84-88b47eca00
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-8f48b414bc-6865d0433a
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-f13d029dfe-86be696fe6
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-d74e6687b5-749a55961f

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[coke]

Sorry, I just now checked them they're expired.

I have some extra invites left:

http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-f54f96ecca-ea5f126ef5
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-28aaaa3964-93d3ff1a3c
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-c990870b37-ccf09a5c74
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-23de02eb23-bbfb1cf76e
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-b65b35635a-2e18973da6
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-1f72cdbd84-88b47eca00
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-8f48b414bc-6865d0433a
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-f13d029dfe-86be696fe6
http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-c56f913ff0-d74e6687b5-749a55961f

Please change the first and last name from coke coke (my handle) to your own.