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Trent Curry

Sam said:
I suspect Abigail was referring to all your posts in the thread and
not
just the specific post that was replied to.


Other people see examples of wht not to do if they dont want to also
end
up in that person's killfile. And I guess what to do if they do want
to
end up in that person's killfile. And possibly a guide to others who
didn't follow the thread as to a poster who's posts might be worth
checking to see if the killfile entry should be duplicated. The second
two reasons are less likely and less important, obviously, but that's
three just off the top of my head.

I consider it of great benefit to know what I should avoid in order to
have a chance of knowledgable, experienced perl programmers answering
a question I may have in the future.

So in other words I'm not allowed to have an opinion, lest Abigail be not in
agreeance? I take pride in being able to think for my self.

--
Trent Curry

perl -e
'($s=qq/e29716770256864702379602c6275605/)=~s!([0-9a-f]{2})!pack("h2",$1)!eg
;print(reverse("$s")."\n");'
 
S

Sam Holden

Sam said:
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:53:42 -0700, Trent Curry
I'm sorry, but what real gain is there from publically announcing
additions to one's kill file?
[snip]

I consider it of great benefit to know what I should avoid in order to
have a chance of knowledgable, experienced perl programmers answering
a question I may have in the future.

So in other words I'm not allowed to have an opinion, lest Abigail be not in
agreeance? I take pride in being able to think for my self.

You asked if there was any "real gain is there from publically
announcing additions to one's kill file?"

I gave one thing I thought was of great utility from such announcements,
and a couple of silly uses as well.

Somehow, you interprete that as not allowing you to have an opinion?

Your skills at twisting text to fit your presumptions amaze me...

If someone else doesn't want to be killfiled by Abigail then her plonk
post tells them not to post the way you had in the thread. They are still
free to post that way. They have just gained some information allowing
them to make a more informed decision about their actions. If they don't
care about Abigail reading their posts then they can ignore the example,
for example.

It has nothing to do with anyone agreeing with your opinions.

The plonk notice serves *exactly* the same purpose as Abigail
mentioning a week or so ago that top posters are usually plonked on
first offence.

Did your freedom of opinion and expression get oppressed by that post
too?
 
T

Trent Curry

Sam Holden said:
[whole lotta snippage]
You asked if there was any "real gain is there from publically
announcing additions to one's kill file?"

I gave one thing I thought was of great utility from such announcements,
and a couple of silly uses as well.

Somehow, you interprete that as not allowing you to have an opinion?

Your skills at twisting text to fit your presumptions amaze me...

Then you misunderstand me. When someone decides to openly ignore me for just
expressing an opinion, it may certainly seem that I should not voice it.
That is what I was getting at; sorry if I was not clear enough.
If someone else doesn't want to be killfiled by Abigail then her plonk
post tells them not to post the way you had in the thread. They are still
free to post that way. They have just gained some information allowing
them to make a more informed decision about their actions. If they don't
care about Abigail reading their posts then they can ignore the example,
for example.

It has nothing to do with anyone agreeing with your opinions.

Well you imply that just because Abigail "plonk"s someone automatically mean
they are some sort of bad person trying to cause trouble, and I do not think
this to be necessarily true.

If she wants to reply to a code orientated question I may be involved in,
then more power to her; she indeed knows her stuff when it comes to Perl, no
@ARGVs there.
The plonk notice serves *exactly* the same purpose as Abigail
mentioning a week or so ago that top posters are usually plonked on
first offence.

Well I missed that one sorry, but I can understand most people's grief with
top posters.


Ok, obviously we had some misunderstandings. I'm sorry for my part. Would it
not be better to end this in a nice diplomatic way? I'm not solicit enemies
here. I simply apologize for coming out the wrong way in all this, ok.

Peace.

--
Trent Curry

perl -e
'($s=qq/e29716770256864702379602c6275605/)=~s!([0-9a-f]{2})!pack("h2",$1)!eg
;print(reverse("$s")."\n");'
 
S

Sam Holden

Then you misunderstand me. When someone decides to openly ignore me for just
expressing an opinion, it may certainly seem that I should not voice it.
That is what I was getting at; sorry if I was not clear enough.

Voicing opinions always has effects, you freedom of expression means you
get to decide if its wortwhile or not.
Well you imply that just because Abigail "plonk"s someone automatically mean
they are some sort of bad person trying to cause trouble, and I do not think
this to be necessarily true.

I implied no such thing.
Ok, obviously we had some misunderstandings. I'm sorry for my part. Would it
not be better to end this in a nice diplomatic way? I'm not solicit enemies
here. I simply apologize for coming out the wrong way in all this, ok.

Peace.

It's just a discussion to me, I haven't formed any lasting impressions.

But it is off-topic by now, and hence probably worth ending, before we
both get killfiled by everyone :)

I'm not trying to have the last word though, feel free to reply...
 
A

Anno Siegel

Trent Curry said:
Then you miss understand me and proceed to a false conclusion of my intent.
I was not trying to be anyone's lawyer. Actually I was poking fun at
Abigail's "rosting over a fire" gag in my last reply. I was not in any way
trying to motivate "kissing up" to anyone.


I'm sorry, but what real gain is there from publically announcing additions
to one's kill file?

It's very useful to learn, from time to time, what other regulars consider
plonkable.

Anno
 
D

Dave Saville

On 24 Sep 2003 00:10:28 GMT, Sam Holden wrote:

Other people see examples of wht not to do if they dont want to also end
up in that person's killfile. And I guess what to do if they do want to
end up in that person's killfile. And possibly a guide to others who
didn't follow the thread as to a poster who's posts might be worth
checking to see if the killfile entry should be duplicated. The second
two reasons are less likely and less important, obviously, but that's
three just off the top of my head.

I consider it of great benefit to know what I should avoid in order to
have a chance of knowledgable, experienced perl programmers answering a
question I may have in the future.

The only problem here is that a poster who does not know enough to not
top post etc.etc. probably has no idea what PLONK means :)

Regards

Dave Saville

NB switch saville for nospam in address
 
H

Helgi Briem

The only problem here is that a poster who does not know
enough to not top post etc.etc. probably has no idea what
PLONK means :)

Good point. The same people usually exhibit enough
other signs of cluelessness and psychopathic rudeness
as to disqualify themselves on other grounds.
 

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