What do you think of this Python logo?

[Ville Vainio]

Has potential though. What about minus the planet?

I don't like the planet either - it's just too "detailed" for a
stylized logo. Perhaps it could be a more simplistic spherical object,
like, say, a pearl ?

 

[Pekka Niiranen]

Cool, I like it

-pekka-

 

[Tim Churches]

What do you think of this Python logo?
http://pythonology.org/logos
Good, bad, indifferent, love it, hate it?

All attempts to link Python the language with Python the snake are
ultimately ill-advised, due to the origin of the name Python - see
http://www.entrenet.com/~groedmed/greekm/mythpyth.html

Much better to stick to a Monty Python-inspired theme, incorporating a
mascot like this http://solair.eunet.yu/~janko/birdman.gif but with the
BDFL's smiling face substituted, of course. Or maybe the Python Software
Foundation could ask Terry Gilliam to design a logo, pro bono. Just tell
him that every Python user would then be honour-bound to see all his
future films (that should increase their box-office take by at least
100%...I can't understand why Munchausen, or Brazil weren't
blockbusters, and what a pity The Man Who Killed Don Quixote was
stillborn - see
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2698920a1870,00.html).

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[Peter Hansen]

I don't like the planet either - it's just too "detailed" for a
stylized logo. Perhaps it could be a more simplistic spherical object,
like, say, a pearl ?

Oooohh... *very* good. ;-)

Too subtle, perhaps? Python is supposed to be explicit... maybe it
should be a Python crushing a camel.

-Peter

 

[R Baumann]

How about the letter 'P' with a python entwined around it followed by the
rest of the letters? The font is fine.

R. Baumann

 

[G.A.]

Much better to stick to a Monty Python-inspired theme, incorporating a

I understand the desire to incorporate fun into Python, but I fear that any
Monty Python inspired logo will connote frivolity. I don't think that's
the image that should be conveyed.

My initial take on the logo in the base note is that I like the cleaness of
it. However, it took too much effort to recognize the outer loop as a
snake, let alone a python. I kind of like the idea of a snake wrapped
around the P.

Gary

 

[John Roth]

I understand the desire to incorporate fun into Python, but I fear that any
Monty Python inspired logo will connote frivolity. I don't think that's
the image that should be conveyed.

My initial take on the logo in the base note is that I like the cleaness of
it. However, it took too much effort to recognize the outer loop as a
snake, let alone a python. I kind of like the idea of a snake wrapped
around the P.

A snake wrapped around a failed project would be even better, but
I will admit that I can't figure out a good, immediately recognizable icon
for a failed project...

John Roth

 

[Peter Hansen]

A snake wrapped around a failed project would be even better, but
I will admit that I can't figure out a good, immediately recognizable icon
for a failed project...

Maybe the Netscape logo? (ducks and runs)

-Peter

 

[Oren Tirosh]

Oooohh... *very* good. ;-)

Too subtle, perhaps? Python is supposed to be explicit... maybe it
should be a Python crushing a camel.

Perhaps a python digesting a camel after having swallowed it whole?
(uh, wait... that was a boa constrictor, not a python...)



Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to
add, but when there is nothing left to take away.

-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

 

[Dennis Lee Bieber]

Brandon J. Van Every fed this fish to the penguins on Monday 10
November 2003 14:16 pm:

What do you think of this Python logo?
http://pythonology.org/logos
Good, bad, indifferent, love it, hate it?

Eeeekkk! the Midgard Serpent; Ouroboros <G>

Guess I've gotten used to the ol' greeny. These look like they would
have been better for a language that started out as non-OO (call it
Python), and then got an OO remake (call it OPython).


--

 

[Nick Vargish]

Perhaps a python digesting a camel after having swallowed it whole?

But wouldn't that just look like a hat?

Nick

(Apologies to Antoine de Saint-Exupery...)

 

[Peter Hansen]

But wouldn't that just look like a hat?

Nick

(Apologies to Antoine de Saint-Exupery...)

For those who don't quite get it: http://galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu/mp/mp/ppchap1.html

-Peter

 

[Kevin Ollivier]

The good: I like the abstract snake design, the curves are really
dynamic and give a sense of movement. Shows a cool snake, but not in a
scary or intimidating way. Looks very professional.

The bad: The whitespace. I didn't realize that the blue lines were a
snake until I read a few other comments... My eyes were brought to the
whitespace and globe in the middle. While I didn't see the sperm
reference, it looked like a curled up tadpole to me. =) In that sense,
the globe fits as an eye for the tadpole... <G> So I was left
wondering how that fit with Python.

Have you considered trying a design with a slithering snake? (Like on
O'Reilly's Python Library Reference.) The snake here looks good, but
the whitespace in the middle looks like something to many people. The
slithering, 'zig-zag' design of the snake would make the snake
reference more apparent. Or maybe use the snake to form a letter (like
P as someone suggested, that would probably look neat) or some other
shape or symbol that could be used as a reference to Python.

Or, if you want to use the globe, I'd suggest making it fill the white
space - have the snake circle the edges of it - literally wrap the
globe. (Although this may cause the snake head to be obscured...)

Just some thoughts. I think this is one of the most professional
looking logo designs I've ever seen for Python!

Kevin

 

[Brandon J. Van Every]

Ok, enough comments have passed by, that I'll break silence and offer some
insights into the thought process behind this logo. I first wanted to get
initial reactions without moving anyone's opinions in any particular
direction.

Have you considered trying a design with a slithering snake? (Like on
O'Reilly's Python Library Reference.)

Yes, we have. There are 3 kinds of snakes we have considered:
1) realistic snakes
2) abstract graphical snakes
3) cute, cuddly snakes

For general marketing purposes, we rejected (1) because a lot of
Judeo-Christians fear and loathe snakes. We don't want them mixing up
Python with their antipathy to snakes. Please note that fear of snakes is
not a universal; Hindus, for instance, like snakes quite a bit. We should
be able to sell many Python products and services in India.

We rejected (3) because one of our goals is to make a logo that Suits
respond favorably to. Suits do not respect cutesy wootsy stuff, they will
reject such technologies as "not serious." Here, it is important to realize
that Suits and Techies have profoundly dissimilar tastes. Techies love Nerf
rockets and Muppet marketing; Suits loathe it.

This leaves us with (2), snakes as abstract design elements. If we use them
at all.

I do believe that marketing campaigns should be directed at Techies, Suits,
and Educators, that all of these bases need to be covered to grow Python's
user base as much as possible. But, they should be separately focused
campaigns, and the Python logo should appeal to all of these parties.

--
Cheers, www.indiegamedesign.com
Brandon Van Every Seattle, WA

Brandon's Law (after Godwin's Law):
"As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of
a person being called a troll approaches one RAPIDLY."

 

[Robin Munn]

Maybe the Netscape logo? (ducks and runs)

^^^^^^^^

I think you misspelled "Micro$oft"...

 

[Guido Schimmels]

Am Tue, 11 Nov 2003 05:07:22 +0000 schrieb Patrick Ellis:

All the logos seem to be purely snake oriented. There is nothing about the
Monty kind of Python. I don't think a snake with a silly walk would work as
a logo. Maybe a snake with a napkin on its head?

Or a dead parrot?
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