Write web apps in Python?

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

Bryan a écrit :

O.K. I wasn't clear on your objection. As I said the first time, I
think you've gotten some bad info on PHP.

Well, I have to admit I've only used it professionnaly for the past 6
years or so, so my knowledge may be a bit lacking...

It's at least a strong clue.

Oh, yes ? Then why don't you use C for web programming ?-)

 

[Tim Chase]

Bryan a écrit :

Oh, yes ? Then why don't you use C for web programming ?-)

Many large, sophisticated etc applications are written in COBOL
too. I'm sure it makes a practical web programming language
too... ;-)

-tkc

 

[Bryan]

Bryan a écrit :



Well, I have to admit I've only used it professionnaly for the past 6
years or so, so my knowledge may be a bit lacking...

Competent PHP developers know how to cache libraries and various
connections and configurations. If that's been a stumbling point if
your own work, well, again, Google is your friend.

Oh, yes ? Then why don't you use C for web programming ?-)

Did you forget what you argued? Had you said that PHP is impractical
for writing operating systems, I would have silently agreed. You wrote
the howler: "The PHP execution model (mostly based on CGI FWIW) tends
to be a bit unpractical for non-trivial applications".

PHP *rocks* for serious web apps. PHP is specifically designed for web
apps. PHP became a major-league programming language *soley* on its
strength and success in building web apps. Popular as PHP is, it
"tends to be a bit unpractical" for anything but web apps.

'Round here we love Python. I prefer Python to Perl or PHP even in
those languages' particular areas of specialization. Advocating for
Python does not require spreading myths about PHP.

 

[Emile van Sebille]

On 4/21/2010 11:37 AM Bryan said...

'Round here we love Python. I prefer Python to Perl or PHP even in
those languages' particular areas of specialization. Advocating for
Python does not require spreading myths about PHP.

You're missing the point -- set-up and tear-down overhead is involved
for both python and php cgi based web serving, and Bruno I'm sure would
concur that python in this suffers similarly. You point at exactly the
issue when you noted earlier:

Bryan> I think I see what you mean -- correct me if
Bryan> I'm wrong: You want to keep complex application
Bryan> data structures around between requests. That
Bryan> sounds appealing in terms of efficiency, but
Bryan> it's bad for scalability and robustness.

It's more than appealing -- for example, it's fact with Zope, where Zeo
adds the scalability.

Emile

 

[Bryan]

You're missing the point -- set-up and tear-down overhead is involved
for both python and php cgi based web serving, and Bruno I'm sure would
concur that python in this suffers similarly.

Well I wrote, "Each has its distinguishing features -- how efficiently
a web app gets invoked is not among them. It's not a language issue."
Bruno disagreed when it comes to PHP. But obviously Bruno and I don't
communicate all that well.