C Book from comp.lang.c !!!

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Malcolm

Kelsey Bjarnason said:
What, creating tutorials should be left to those who don't know the
subject? Of course not.
The question is, who judges the tutorial? The person who doesn't know the
material, but works through it, can say what his experience of being a
student was like. The initiate can't do that.
Knowing the subject is an essential qualification for being a teacher, but
it is not the only qualification. Those who teach C on a regular basis are
probably the best people to judge the merits of a tutorial.
 
C

CBFalconer

Malcolm said:
The question is, who judges the tutorial? The person who doesn't
know the material, but works through it, can say what his
experience of being a student was like. The initiate can't do
that. Knowing the subject is an essential qualification for
being a teacher, but it is not the only qualification. Those who
teach C on a regular basis are probably the best people to judge
the merits of a tutorial.

Actually you can't be complete in any introductory course. You
either have to cavil, saying there are exceptions to this (and
confuse the students) or give them a simplified view of
something. I learned this while trying my hand at teaching a few
years ago. I found I confused much more than the teacher who
misinformed.

Teaching seems to be at least a 2-pass algorithm.
 
D

Dan Pop

In said:
CBFalconer said:
newby2c said:
Yes, that and K&R2 have much to do with the popularity of C.

[snip]

Do you think there will ever be a third edition of that work?


Kernighan has explicitly said no.

I wonder why K & R wouldn't write another book. Too hard? Not. Maybe

Most likely, they don't feel C99 is worth being described in a *tutorial*
book. I couldn't agree more. If you need a reference book addressing
the issue, there is always H&S5.
there's not enough money in it. How many copies of K&R3 might be
sold? How much would the authors presumably make? What are they
doing now? Both working at Bell Labs (Lucent)? What have either of
them done lately to stay famous?

What has Albert Einstein been doing since ~1915 to stay famous?

Dan
 
J

Joe Wright

Dan said:
CBFalconer said:
newby2c wrote:





Yes, that and K&R2 have much to do with the popularity of C.

[snip]

Do you think there will ever be a third edition of that work?


Kernighan has explicitly said no.

I wonder why K & R wouldn't write another book. Too hard? Not. Maybe


Most likely, they don't feel C99 is worth being described in a *tutorial*
book. I couldn't agree more. If you need a reference book addressing
the issue, there is always H&S5.

I'll take your point. I've just bought H&S5 to add to my Library. I
haven't actually read any of it yet. Have you? Is it any good?
What has Albert Einstein been doing since ~1915 to stay famous?

Dan

Both BWK and DMR are heroes of mine. I do not require more of them
than I have already seen.

Abert Einstein
Born: 14 March 1879 in Ulm, Württemberg, Germany
Died: 18 April 1955 in Princeton, New Jersey, USA

His General Theory of 1915 was just the beginning. Every move in
Physics and Mathematics since then is done with Einstein in mind.
 
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Dan Pop

In said:
I'll take your point. I've just bought H&S5 to add to my Library. I
haven't actually read any of it yet. Have you? Is it any good?

Being able to read the standard itself, I see no point in either buying
or reading H&S5. Such books are for people who don't want to mess with
standards and prefer something more readable.
Both BWK and DMR are heroes of mine. I do not require more of them
than I have already seen.

Abert Einstein
Born: 14 March 1879 in Ulm, Württemberg, Germany
Died: 18 April 1955 in Princeton, New Jersey, USA

His General Theory of 1915 was just the beginning.

As far as Einstein's contribution to the modern physics is concerned,
it was the end.
Every move in
Physics and Mathematics since then is done with Einstein in mind.

By *other* people.

Dan
 
R

Richard Bos

Abert Einstein
Born: 14 March 1879 in Ulm, Württemberg, Germany
Died: 18 April 1955 in Princeton, New Jersey, USA

His General Theory of 1915 was just the beginning.

Just the high point. The beginning was ten years earlier: his theory of
the photoelectric effect, for which he got his Nobel prize.

Richard
 

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