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tsumeruby
I as well. Perhaps some of our friends at Yahoo can get his IP to track him?
Tsume
Tsume
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Ryan Leavengood
im?
What's the point? While he has violated copyright he did not appear to
do it maliciously, and he is likely from a country where copyright is
not so sanctified as it is in the US and Europe. The cat is out of the
bag and it is extremely difficult to determine what "lost revenue" his
copyright violation may have caused for the copyright holders. Likely
not enough to warrant paying lawyers to track him down and try to sue.
It is likely that some of those who did not delete the emails, read
the books and liked them will choose to purchase the real thing,
either for the paper version or just to pay for the electronic version
out of fairness. Some may not.
I think part of living in the modern internet connected world is
realizing that any copyrighted content you produce will be "pirated"
by some people. I think that needs to be considered one of the costs
of doing business in that realm.
The music and movie companies' campaigns to completely eliminate all
copyright violations are unrealistic and will result in more misery
for the average person than they will solve problems.
Ryan
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James Britt
Ryan said:
Exactly. I believe that most of the people on this list would buy those
items if they wanted them, or already have them.
I think the number of people who received this mail, and now think, "Oh,
good; I was going to pay or this, but now I won't", is quite small.
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anne001
I think the number of people who received this mail, and now think, "Oh,
I bought the pic axe which I don't like, and it is not the first time I
am disappointed in a book bought over the internet. I borrowed sam's
teach yourself but I did not buy it yet in the hope an update will come
in 2006
The benefit of having access to a pdf is not that you don't have to pay
for it, it is that you find out if it will be useful.
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I bought the pic axe which I don't like, and it is not the first time I
am disappointed in a book bought over the internet. I borrowed sam's
teach yourself but I did not buy it yet in the hope an update will come
in 2006
The benefit of having access to a pdf is not that you don't have to pay
for it, it is that you find out if it will be useful.
--
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tsumeruby
Okay, If I pirated loads of books, what is the point of reading a book many
times unless its a reference book like the pickaxe? I don't think some books
could be considered for repetitive reading. So once the book is read, it
becomes useless to the holder.
I do understand people do pirate books to read them before buying them, and
even programs out there which show parts of the book just aren't enough to
judge a book before buying, but I don't think someone needs to spam everyone
on the list with huge attachments. There should really be a "trial book" from
the publishers if people wished to perform this type of engagement.
Tsume
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Ryan Leavengood
Thank goodness for libraries, right!
Don't misunderstand me in regards to my copyright tirade before...what
the "book emailer" did was wrong. I'm just saying now that it is done
there isn't much we can do about it.
Again libraries can be of use here.
Ryan
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tsumeruby
/me looks at Homer Libraries yearly spending allowance
<tsume> Hmm, don't think they even have any funds for buying computer tech
books.
<tsume> daihenda!
Tsume
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Gregory Brown
+1
Must have been a bot that pulled the list and then partitioned it off.
But why? Why not just hit the list once?
Was this person smart enough to not want to see this stuff archived?
I deleted 2->4 at arrival, did not get 1
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Jon A. Lambert
Ryan said:
It was an overtly malicious act and I hope the owners of the properties do
indeed go after them.
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Peter Hickman
Ryan said:
For the simple fact that he is a spammer perhaps? 18Mb of spam, you
could almost consider that to be a mailbomb, my average spam is around
15Kb per message not 5Mb.
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Doug Bromley
I really don't think a witchunt is necessary. Some people are
starting to sound like a rowdy lynch mob baying for blood.
starting to sound like a rowdy lynch mob baying for blood.
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Jon A. Lambert
Doug said:
I vote we sieze hold of him, press him flat between a printing press and
throw him in the river. If he floats he's not a witch and he can go free.
If he sinks he's a witch and subject up to $5000 in fines for each incident
of criminal copyright infringement.
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Peter Hickman
Jon said:
Get with the times dude. He has to hold an overclocked AMD CPU in his
hand whilst
carrying a 19 inch monitor up five flights of stairs. If after 24 hours
there are no blisters from the CPU then he is innocent.
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Robert Klemme
Jon said:
You reversed the traditional logic - is that on purpose? Traditionally if
he sank he's no witch and can go free, if he doesn't he's sued.
robert
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Matthew Moss
Build a bridge out of 'im!!!
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Mike Fletcher
Matthew said:
Now, now. You're starting to sound like a bunch of Python (Monty)
people . . .
(And there's a duck typing reference in here somewhere waiting to be
made
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Dirk Meijer
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
2006/1/31, Mike Fletcher (e-mail address removed):
if he looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck and weighs
the same as a duck...
he's a witch!!
lol, thanks for pointing that out
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Content-Disposition: inline
2006/1/31, Mike Fletcher (e-mail address removed):
(And there's a duck typing reference in here somewhere waiting to be
made
if he looks like a duck, walks like a duck, talks like a duck and weighs
the same as a duck...
he's a witch!!
lol, thanks for pointing that out
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Timothy Goddard
I just got back from holiday to find 3 emails, labelled parts 2, 3 and
4 from this guy, containing 4 of these. He must've simply gleaned
emails from the groups here and sent in batches of about a half-dozen.
This person could well have good intentions, but if I wanted the books
here (yes, the files appear to be genuine) I would give the authors the
payment they deserve.
A paperback book is infinitely more useful than an ebook anyway. I
always keep the pickaxe on my desk for reference as it's the fastest
way I've found to look up details of the built-in classes and standard
library.
There's no need to hunt down a single guy with misguided intentions,
but please could Mr Aktan keep these to himself.
4 from this guy, containing 4 of these. He must've simply gleaned
emails from the groups here and sent in batches of about a half-dozen.
This person could well have good intentions, but if I wanted the books
here (yes, the files appear to be genuine) I would give the authors the
payment they deserve.
A paperback book is infinitely more useful than an ebook anyway. I
always keep the pickaxe on my desk for reference as it's the fastest
way I've found to look up details of the built-in classes and standard
library.
There's no need to hunt down a single guy with misguided intentions,
but please could Mr Aktan keep these to himself.
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Austin Ziegler
On 01/02/06 said:
You gather mostly wrong. PDFs themselves cannot contain executable code
that can affect the operating system, even with the Acrobat Javascript
capabilities.
PDFs *can*, however, contain QuickTime, JPEG, or other media files that
could possibly have bugs in operating-system or viewer presentation
code.
-austin
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MenTaLguY
That's presuming there aren't any exploitable bugs in Adobe's Javascript
implementation, of course.
-mental